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#27668 - 11/23/02 06:34 AM Re: Several technique questions
Jalapeņo Offline
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I agree with Arlene that learning by discovery is the best way to learn. That's what I pretty much do when teaching my own kids. I give them general instructions & help where needed, but when they're practicing I try to butt out (I usually get busy doing something so I'm not hearing all the mistakes they make) & let them figure things out by themselves. My own piano teacher "taught" me that way. There were many things I "discovered" on my own, thanks to the leading questions she asked me that made me think & want to explore. \:\)

However, since moving to Lubbock, I've had to deal with students who are used to being coddled by the public school system & by parents who don't expect much of them. :rolleyes: They're not accustomed to the way I'd like to teach. In order to keep them from shutting down (tuning me out completely), I have to coddle them.

At present, I teach 3 students (besides my own 3 children). Only 1 (the non-intuitive ult) has to be coddled every single step of the way. The other 2 are good students who need a little more detailed instruction than my own children, not because they're less bright or talented, but because I only see them 45 minutes a week. My own children have never had weekly structured lessons as such. We just have time to work on piano every day, year 'round. I think it would be unfair to compare my kids' musical progress to those kids who do not have a "Piano Teacher Mom."

Parents paying more for lessons: What I mean is that if a child hardly ever practices, his/her progress is painfully slow. It therefore takes him/her longer to get through each level; more money out of the parents' pocket because they have to pay more for the amount of knowledge/skill their child attains. For example, I've had students go through primer level in only 4 months' time [looks like my Asian student is going to break that record, btw :)] while others have taken 1.5 to 2 years! Also, "cost" IMO is not just calculated in dollars & cents. It's calculated in return on investment. Parents whose children practice receive an excellent return on the money they invest. Parents whose children don't practice are wasting my time & their money. In this sense, piano lessons is indeed much more "costly" for the parents whose children aren't making an effort.

Regarding studio policies: I had policies in Costa Rica simply because I wanted to present a professional image to my clients & run my studio in a businesslike manner. However, my policies weren't nearly as detailed as the ones I have now because there wasn't a need for it.

[ 11-23-2002: Message edited by: Jalapeņo ]

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#27669 - 11/27/02 03:12 PM Re: Several technique questions
Bontempo Offline
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I'm still waiting for replies from Eric and Arlene, but I guess my posting-mania made it more complicated...
Anyhoo, stupid question from an English-ignorant? What does FWIW mean? \:o And when you say

"He's 8 going on 12" that means that he'll turn 8 on the next 12th of December or have I got it all wrong once again ?(Ahhhhh, Magoo... you've done it again!) \:o \:o \:D
***feeling embarassed*** \:o

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#27670 - 11/27/02 04:34 PM Re: Several technique questions
Jalapeņo Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Bontempo:
I'm still waiting for replies from Eric and Arlene, but I guess my posting-mania made it more complicated...
Anyhoo, stupid question from an English-ignorant? What does FWIW mean? \:o And when you say

"He's 8 going on 12" that means that he'll turn 8 on the next 12th of December or have I got it all wrong once again ?(Ahhhhh, Magoo... you've done it again!) \:o \:o \:D
***feeling embarassed*** \:o


"FWIW" means "For What It's Worth."

"He's 8 going on 12" means that he's an 8-year-old who acts like a 12-year-old.

[ 11-27-2002: Message edited by: Jalapeņo ]

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#27671 - 11/27/02 04:51 PM Re: Several technique questions
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Loc: Fresno, CA USA
Sorry ... too exhausted ... end of semester is near ... must ...keep...going........ \:\(

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#27672 - 12/22/02 04:45 PM Re: Several technique questions
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Registered: 03/02/02
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Loc: Denver, Colorado
I'm hoping that during this busy time some one of you who have read Josef Lhevine's Basic Principles in Pianoforte Playing, and are also familiar with Lister Sink's method, would tell me if these two approaches are basically the same. The falling arm and the "floating arm" seem the same, but perhaps there is a large difference here? Thanks so much, if you can even figure out what I am trying to ask! Shirley

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#27673 - 12/22/02 10:13 PM Re: Several technique questions
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This is just a little bump because I posted so late last night. Cheers! Shirley

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#27674 - 12/23/02 12:34 PM Re: Several technique questions
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I perhaps "bumped" this too soon?

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#27675 - 01/13/03 11:27 AM Re: Several technique questions
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Shirley, I was taught Josef Lhevinne's method when I was in my teens (my teacher was a student of his). I've since hybrid the method with Taubman. I don't know Lister's method. With Lhevinne's method, I'll tell you that you can get very fast.

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#27676 - 01/13/03 10:35 PM Re: Several technique questions
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Loc: Denver, Colorado
Piano Lady: Thanks so much. I wish I knew more about Taubmann. I'd like to rent her tapes, at least at first, since they are a bit pricey. Thanks for the reply! Shirley

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