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#15070 - 12/14/00 07:44 PM Re: Links to Music Sites
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Cool post, Jalapeno! I like the way all the smilies look when they're next to each other!

Y'know what I like about this site? Well, in addition to a great group of people with diverse opinions all sharing, I've noticed a similarity between this site and Piano Adventures.

We've posted at length about one of PA's merits being that it encourages independent learners ~ As opposed to older methods that required a teacher to explain everything to the child, rendering the student helpless outside of the all-powerful teacher.

Well, this site is sorta the same. It's trusting us teachers, in all our varying levels of education and the diversity of our backgrounds and experience, to learn independently from one another, rather than just learning from some Grand Pooh-Bah Expert who writes very all-knowing articles on Pedagogy. Of course, I'm referring to those You-Know-Whats at the Piano Education Page. That site is a total bore and filled with a couple people's tired old opinions. They clearly fancy themselves as THE authority on EVERYTHING.

On the other hand, THIS site is WAY COOL!

[This message has been edited by Eric Rockwell (edited 15 December 2000).]

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#15071 - 12/15/00 02:44 AM Re: Links to Music Sites
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Eric,

I agree with virtually none of the opinions at the Piano Education Page and think their name gives many people the wrong impression. Their method reviews are inane and their software reviews aren't much better. They sharply criticize Alfred, Bastien and Faber while writing glowing recommendations of Robyn and Pace. Have you seen the Robyn books? They are priceless -- for comedy. Dr. Middle C indeed. And "the Ancient Graces" in "Short Etudes with Ornaments for Piano" creates an entire family tree of the ornaments beginning with Grace, the Baby through the Great-Grandparents. (I can't find a smilie to match the level of humor here.) But I digress.

I have seen references to their opinions of methods on various other piano sites quoted as if they are fact. And many, many sites have links to the Piano Education Page so more and more people will be misled.

They do have some nice MIDI files playing in the background and available for download (courtesy of Classical MIDI Archives?) and some good links. One of their interesting pages is http://www.unm.edu/~loritaf/pnokids.html#Meet the Composer which might help to stimulate interest in a few great classical composers, but there's not much substance.

Promising to search my bookmarks for a good recommendation for the next post, Rhapsody
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#15072 - 12/15/00 08:16 AM Re: Links to Music Sites
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I switched all of my students over to PA, and I continue to receive favorable comments from parents such as, "My child love piano lessons, & I don't have to force him/her to go practice." That says it all, folks! I'm not here to debate the soundness of various pedagogical approaches & methods, but I am going to boldly state that it doesn't matter how pedagogically sound a method is if the music isn't appealing, if the illustrations on the pages turn kids off because they're too babyish, or if there's not enough familiar tunes mixed in so the kids learn to play a few songs they already know. The Fabers have done a superb job with PA, & I can't wait 'til they release a pre-primer method & levels 6-8!

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#15073 - 12/15/00 08:55 AM Re: Links to Music Sites
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Loc: Iowa City, IA
Nobody's mentioned this yet:
http://www.music.indiana.edu/music_resources/

...and of course there's my home page...
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/jsifford

...and the absolutely hilarious...
http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~bogo/tit/home.html

Then there's:
http://www.ptg.org/

Mac users can download an excellent free software notation package at:
http://www.noteheads.com/
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#15074 - 12/15/00 12:18 PM Re: Links to Music Sites
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cackle,cackle,cackle Unfortunately the cackling has produced c-c-c-coughing due to viewing the T.I.T. site and I may have to go the hospital stat. Thanks for sharing! (Who are those guys anyway to come up with all that great stuff? I especially loved the fitness area...)

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#15075 - 12/15/00 05:50 PM Re: Links to Music Sites
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I bookmarked the T.I.T. site but haven't had time to browse through it. Now I know what to do with my weekend.

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#15076 - 12/16/00 11:03 AM Re: Links to Music Sites
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http://www.cbc4kids.ca/general/music/default.html has: Name That (Classical) Tune which has some interesting tidbits, Guess the Instrument, and some current music pages. It can be slow waiting for the audio clips.

http://DataDragon.com/education/ has several pages -- my favorite is http://DataDragon.com/day/ -- This Day in Music History gives composer birthdays as well as Broadway play openings & music charts info. Happy Birthday, Beethoven -- either yesterday or today.
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#15077 - 12/16/00 05:13 PM Re: Links to Music Sites
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I guess the Data Dragon page on musical genres might help the clueless mother who called me a while back about lessons & didn't know what I meant by musical styles.

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#15078 - 12/17/00 09:19 AM Re: Links to Music Sites
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This morning I recieved an email from practicespot.com asking me to check out their new teachers forum that they added to their site. I checked it out and for a couple of minutes I was in a state of confussion. I thought I was at the Fabers Piano Club. The layout of the forum could almost pass for the Fabers forum except all the posts were in green and white instead of blue and yellow. They even have the burning
folders, lightbulbs, the smilies, the post and reply icons are located in the same position and the show topics box are in the same place. The site looked 98% Faberish. I kept searching the site to see if the Fabers had anything to do with the site.

[This message has been edited by Samuel (edited 17 December 2000).]

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#15079 - 12/17/00 09:56 AM Re: Links to Music Sites
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That's because they're using the same software. Check out the grey text at the bottom of your page - this BBS is powered by "Ultimate Bulletin Board."

I've run across several sites that use this software - they can customize the colors and text, but the nuts and bolts are the same for all.
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